"a fair number of users become addicted to the petrifying sanctuary delirium offers, despite the ever-present risk each trip holds of permanently finding oneself in the fog of dementia."
Does any data support this? To my knowledge deliriants have always been considered among the least addictive drugs, precisely because the subjective experience of one tends toward being so miserable and neutral at best. If they were addictive, one would expect datura addiction would be too considering it grows everywhere like a weed and you might even have some in your own backyard and not realise it, but it's so extremely unattractive to take (even more than dipenhydramine) and unpleasant, hardly anyone tries it even once.
Dipenhydramine has always been seen as a drug stupid teenagers who can't get anything else get high off of once, then never again. Maybe it's new to a lot of people now because of Tiktok and Reddit, but it's been well-known among users of drug forums and psychonauts forever (not sure why you say "self-identified psychonaut" at one point of the article as if there's any other kind; it refers to a certain kind of person with a certain kind of approach to primarily psychedelic drugs, and it's not like you can identify other people as it because that'd require mind reading to know their own intentions or philosophy on using them). It's never taken off in usage since most don't need to try it to realise it's a crappy drug.
Not defending it nor deliriants in general really, they are horrible drugs to the individual taking them. In the past, I've never seen anything but people being discouraged from taking them since it almost universally ends in regret, so a trend like this is really stupid and deserves condemnation. But seeing them called "addictive" is surprising to me, of the people who take deliriants my understanding is most never will again, and it'd take a very strange and exceptional person to actually become addicted to them.
Apologies if any of this unintentionally comes across as critical of your (good) article, I don't mean to be—just surprised by that statement!
DXM is another common OTC drug abused by the same demographic of teens making stupid teen decisions. It's an NMDA antagonist and can be used as a dissociative, it's like ketamine basically. Not as bad as a deliriant, but still stupid to use recreationally. Looks like it has yet to get a Tiktok trend, fortunately, hopefully it stays that way!
This very good and interesting article made me remember an experience from many years ago. One of my son's teenage friends called and said that his little brother, who he was babysitting, had drunk a whole bottle of liquid Benadryl. I did not hesitate but jumped in my car and drove them to the closest ER. They were unable to reach the child's mother, but since it was an emergency, they went ahead and treated him. I don't know what they did since I was not related to him. Afterwards I wondered if it really wasn't that big of a deal. But after reading this I'm glad I reacted as I did then. Thanks!
"a fair number of users become addicted to the petrifying sanctuary delirium offers, despite the ever-present risk each trip holds of permanently finding oneself in the fog of dementia."
Does any data support this? To my knowledge deliriants have always been considered among the least addictive drugs, precisely because the subjective experience of one tends toward being so miserable and neutral at best. If they were addictive, one would expect datura addiction would be too considering it grows everywhere like a weed and you might even have some in your own backyard and not realise it, but it's so extremely unattractive to take (even more than dipenhydramine) and unpleasant, hardly anyone tries it even once.
Dipenhydramine has always been seen as a drug stupid teenagers who can't get anything else get high off of once, then never again. Maybe it's new to a lot of people now because of Tiktok and Reddit, but it's been well-known among users of drug forums and psychonauts forever (not sure why you say "self-identified psychonaut" at one point of the article as if there's any other kind; it refers to a certain kind of person with a certain kind of approach to primarily psychedelic drugs, and it's not like you can identify other people as it because that'd require mind reading to know their own intentions or philosophy on using them). It's never taken off in usage since most don't need to try it to realise it's a crappy drug.
Not defending it nor deliriants in general really, they are horrible drugs to the individual taking them. In the past, I've never seen anything but people being discouraged from taking them since it almost universally ends in regret, so a trend like this is really stupid and deserves condemnation. But seeing them called "addictive" is surprising to me, of the people who take deliriants my understanding is most never will again, and it'd take a very strange and exceptional person to actually become addicted to them.
Apologies if any of this unintentionally comes across as critical of your (good) article, I don't mean to be—just surprised by that statement!
DXM is another common OTC drug abused by the same demographic of teens making stupid teen decisions. It's an NMDA antagonist and can be used as a dissociative, it's like ketamine basically. Not as bad as a deliriant, but still stupid to use recreationally. Looks like it has yet to get a Tiktok trend, fortunately, hopefully it stays that way!
This very good and interesting article made me remember an experience from many years ago. One of my son's teenage friends called and said that his little brother, who he was babysitting, had drunk a whole bottle of liquid Benadryl. I did not hesitate but jumped in my car and drove them to the closest ER. They were unable to reach the child's mother, but since it was an emergency, they went ahead and treated him. I don't know what they did since I was not related to him. Afterwards I wondered if it really wasn't that big of a deal. But after reading this I'm glad I reacted as I did then. Thanks!
trippppyyyyyy/